Windows, Mirrors and Wipers.

[Pumba2988]

Hi just wanted to start up a conservation in regards to the armor glass, the mirrors and the wiper blades for the cybertruck.

Thoughts on Armor Glass:
Since there is no video evidence of the cyber truck windows being able to roll down, I'm going to assume that since the glass broke on stage that tesla would want to make all the glass bullet proof, and to do this make the windows not able to roll down. I mean just look at the shape of the front side windows if there were able to roll down half way, half the window would still be visible purely because of the odd shape.
Instead to make them strong and thought design the windows to be just like proper bullet proof glass in a window pane in the shape of the window on the car. I mean if it came down to it would you choose a fully bullet proof window that can't roll down or a window that can roll down yet can also crack. Thoughts?


Mirrors or lack there of: I know they don't want the side mirrors instead they want to use the side cameras and display this on the screen. I'm all for it. I know some concept cars in Japan have screens roughly in the same position as the pillar that show you a screen roughly the same size as a normal mirror showing you the same vision but without having side mirrors. Not sure if any car on the road today has that feature., not sure but if they did have to put mirrors on the CT to get it on the road, I surely reckon those side mirrors would look hideous in relation to the whole car being the shape that it is. You guys got thoughts on the side mirrors?

Wiper blades, I didn't notice any wiper blades on the concept truck in the unveil being that the entire front of the vehicle is one flat sheet of glass that rolls into the flat stainless steel that is hinged for a small bonnet. I can't see any room for motorized window Wipers either from the bottom nor the top of the window. I mean where will they go. I've heard people talk about laser window wipers... Like what is that? What you guys reckon.

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[cyberhunter]

The CT had the windows partly rolled down during the Jay Leno episode. If you watch the videos it's clear they were about 20% open.

I'd be fine with side cameras because the it would be more aero efficient and produce less wind noise.

There have been several theories on how the wipers may work but I'd just assume they will be recessed until in use. It will be interesting to see if the design is novel or traditional when more details on final design start emerging.

 

[Pumba2988]

The CT had the windows partly rolled down during the Jay Leno episode. If you watch the videos it's clear they were about 20% open.

I watched this just now and still do not see the windows rolled down. I suspect that the CT will be different compared to the one unveiled.

Just going to have to wait and see I can see this car being delayed. I'm assuming they will have more cut and polish before this bad boys ready for the streets.

Terafactory will focus on semi and model Y first I think.

 

[VolklKatana]

quick google search:

mirror topic https://www.teslarati.com/tesla-roadster-cybertruck-no-side-mirror-nhtsa/

Wiper topic, option 1:https://cleantechnica.com/2019/09/30/new-tesla-patent-an-electromagnetic-windshield-wiper-system/
Option 2: https://drivetribe.com/p/tesla-file...GFmMTVm8ekyTeXMX4Q?iid=T6PVIuzsQIupn3mANXl51Q

 

[TheLastStarfighter]

I don't know what you're talking about, the windows have plenty of room to roll down and the doors are a square, there is no issue. I think the truck will probably come with traditional wipers and side mirrors.

 

[egandalf]

In the Jay Leno video, the window is down during the Boring Tunnel portion.

Window partway down:

Window appears to be all the way down.

No way would Tesla make a vehicle with static windows (unless a special case for Gov or something). People still need to operate it as a regular vehicle, including accessing McDonald's drive-through, etc.

 

[egandalf]

quick google search

Faster than me!

 

[Bigvbear]

Let's talk about this a min

For a wiper I think the CT will have something similar to what the roadster and Semi have now. A single blade on a double swing arm.

If you notice in the semi reveal, the Semi had no side mirrors, the roadster also lacked a wiper, but later prototypes do have a wiper.

fast forward, the ones out on the road have wipers and side mirrors.

I think the lack of these on the CT prototype has led to some, for lack of a better term hysteria, on what high tech gadgets will be deployed (IE laser wipers and whatnot) i think the reality will be far less interesting.

just to show you what i mean on this

Roadster no wiper:

Roadster with wiper

Semi at reveal, no mirors:

Road Semi Mirrors.

 

[Frank W]

Elon had said that the glass is essentially armor glass however the stainless steel body was bullet proof (to 9mm) but nothing indicated that the glass was.

 

[myco.rrhizae]

Model X prototype also had no mirrors...

 

[NiceGuyMax]

Of course the windows will be able to roll down. How else will the State Police hand me my speeding tickets? ?‍

 

[TI4Dan]

I think mirrors will be used on the cybertruck, no camera problems and always on..lol. To have cameras in addition side mirrors I could see that. Wiper is going to be interesting the front glass is so big the only way to cover it with a wiper might be a single wiper arm so it can reach near the top and sweep across the most of the front. Windows will roll down not a complex shape or extreme curved glass. I used to work on Armored vehicles and the windows did not actuate in anyway in fact just too heavy.

 

[Julien]

A few things to say, the window rolling thing has already been debunked in Jay Leno's video, and the simple fact that the window is frameless means that it HAS to roll down a bit to let the door open.

Side mirrors: I believe some UK versions of the Audi E-Tron has no side mirrors but has interior screens on each side pillar. BTW, this truck is going to the U.S.A., are they supposed to get outside to get their fast food? No. Having the side cameras in the center screen would truly make it impossible to use, who looks in the center when trying to find what's on the left side? That takes the whole central screen speedometer to a whole new (worse) level. And, Tesla could easily make great looking side mirrors for the CT, just make them a triangle and it fits right with the CT.

Finally, wipers: The CT will have normal wipers, there is absolutely no way that they will create some laser technology to take off the water (and what about leaves?), simply won't work.

PS If the CT doesn't have mirrors or windows that roll down I really think that it's a dealbreaker, just too impossible to live with.

 

[Pumba2988]

You guys are awesome thanks for the many replies I got proved wrong in my thesis to the point where I'm more excited for my plaid CT. Thanks community never a let down <3

 

[myco.rrhizae]

Finally, wipers: The CT will have normal wipers, there is absolutely no way that they will create some laser technology to take off the water (and what about leaves?), simply won't work.

So, in this other thread,
https://www.cybertruckownersclub.co...ferent-from-the-actual-truck.1550/#post-23337
we talked about how the original tease photo has a different hood that was beveled down on the sides and raised in the center. this would provide space for wiper housing. Brings up the question of what kind of changes we are going to see in the body of the production unit.

Two ~ wiper housing?! yeah - where are the wipers gonna go? I know that this has been discussed to some extent, but its difficult to appreciate how much it will change the entire feel of the truck to break the seamless and flush plane of the hood with the windshield. And i have serious doubts that Tesla is going to use some kind of laser powered windshield wipers (which i dont think is physically possible). If anything that pattent could be just for defogging and melting ice. The angled sides on the hood would serve to lift the top of the hood for the wipers to live without producing the drag that Tesla is known to put a great amount of effort into avoiding.