Elon Musk is ready to pull out of California, over CA not allowing the plant to be reopened.

[Aces-Truck]

Updated May 11, 2020 at 2:30 PM PT

Elon Musk has just tweeted that production is restarting today at the Fremont plant, against Alameda County rules.



Original Post

I just saw this today:
"https://nationalpost.com/news/world...esla-out-of-california-over-covid-19-shutdown"

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[MAGATRK]

LET FREEDOM RING!

 

[Jhodgesatmb]

I have been shopping with my wife at Target in foster city. It sells everything, and people are wearing masks and staying 6’ apart. Why can Target and Costco be open and sell everything, and not all similar places? Tesla is highly automated so why can’t it open and maintain social distancing and use PPEs? I have been a strong proponent for SIP, social distancing, and the use of PPEs, but people (everywhere) really do believe that coronavirus is a hoax or not a problem. So let’s open up; see if they are right. I will stay safe at home. Good luck America. As for Tesla, they have a solid argument and I bet they will be allowed to reopen, and I will still buy my CT no matter where the company HQ is and no matter where the CT is made.

 

[lukefrisbee]

It is a real sjit show in the TMC investor thread right now...
My thoughts have always been that TSLA should have nothing in California but a headhunter for the young engineer talent.
Elon only chose Fremont because he didn't understand that there were alot better environments to place your business in the USA than Cali, and he got a deal.
The only real argument about staying in Cali is the pool of engineers is superior. But the thing is I know engineers. Those geeks will travel at the drop of a hat for a job that they like. It isn't an issue.

 

[cybrtrk_maybe]

... and I will still buy my CT no matter where the company HQ is and no matter where the CT is made.

At this moment I am strongly leaning toward the CT. I like it's performance (speed, distance, towing capabilities, ...); It's a bonus that it will be "Made in USA"!

 

[Jhodgesatmb]

It is a real sjit show in the TMC investor thread right now...
My thoughts have always been that TSLA should have nothing in California but a headhunter for the young engineer talent.
Elon only chose Fremont because he didn't understand that there were alot better environments to place your business in the USA than Cali, and he got a deal.
The only real argument about staying in Cali is the pool of engineers is superior. But the thing is I know engineers. Those geeks will travel at the drop of a hat for a job that they like. It isn't an issue.

“Cali”? Who talks like that? I find it hard to believe that the poster is involved in the software industry as a developer, because the only developers that will move at the drop of a hat are contractors and they usually aren’t the best developers and certainly aren’t reliable. The term mercenary comes to mind. Elon Musk is free to go where he wants to, for whatever reason, but I think it would be unwise. There is no perfect place; there are always issues and compromises. I hope he thinks them all out.

 

[Handy Artie]

Just out of curiosity, how long do you think it would take Tesla to move its Model Y assembly line from Fremont CA to Gigafactory 1 in Sparks, NV by existing roads? Do you think this would help jump start the production of the Tesla Semi in Gigafactory 1 to help accomplish the move? The distance is around 345 miles each way. This would leave Fremont with the capability of making model s and model x in low volumes and maybe even the new Roadster. It would lower Tesla’s tax liability in CA and costs of electric energy. It would eliminate a state income tax for assembly line employees on three potential assembly lines. How long will it take for the Federal district court of Northern California to issue a ruling one way or another on Tesla’s suit.? Do you think Elon Musk has already played out this chess game in his mind now that he is selling some real estate in CA. $40 Million could buy him something nice on Lake Tahoe, maybe even the property in Godfather 2. Ted Cruz has already thanked him for moving the Cybertruck factory to Texas, another no state income tax venue.
Just asking.

 

[Handy Artie]

Hell. Compared to what he’s selling in Hollywood that Lake Tahoe house is cheap.

https://www.google.com/search?q=lak...er+2&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&hl=en-us&client=safari

 

[lukefrisbee]

Fremont would be best to let die on the vine. Not cut off its nose to spite its face.

 

[U92]

It is a real sjit show in the TMC investor thread right now...
My thoughts have always been that TSLA should have nothing in California but a headhunter for the young engineer talent.
Elon only chose Fremont because he didn't understand that there were alot better environments to place your business in the USA than Cali, and he got a deal.
The only real argument about staying in Cali is the pool of engineers is superior. But the thing is I know engineers. Those geeks will travel at the drop of a hat for a job that they like. It isn't an issue.

Another reason he liked the west coast was their ports in San Fran they can import things and ship to China very easy out of Oakland which is neighbors to their factory. I agree he should move to Houston Tx. He could live like a king there. I might move out of California this year as well....

 

[Cyber1qhorsey]

Elon has a typical absentee factory owner, thumb your nose at the world attitude. He's safe in his fortress of properties in Palo Alto. Alameda county where his factory resides has a continuing, new covid case rate in the 40s per day. The surrounding counties are doing a little better. The region al adjoining counties need to solve this problem together... Does he have a public plan to keep the workers relatively safe? Got rapid, 15 min covid tests on the factory site, Elon? How about some next gen public health tech at Freemont?! Sick factories just produce shitty product.

 

[Bigvbear]

This thread is diving into political agendas and tribalism that i feel it should just end here. We are here to talk about the CT, not politics. There are plenty of other forums for that BS.

 

[Cyber1qhorsey]

The name of this thread makes Elon's response to Alameda county's health response relevant. Tesla can ill afford to 1. Move out of Fremont: 2. Re-open Fremont without an approved plan, if we want to get our CTs in a reasonable time.

 

[Old Spice]

Sounds like Fremont factory is firing up again!

 

[Cyber1qhorsey]

Sounds like Elon might be going to jail. Per quote: " Tesla is restarting production today against Alameda County rules. I will be on the line with everyone else. If anyone is arrested, I ask that it only be me."