Are the specs achievable?

[kev12345]

Are the cybertruck specs really achievable for the price listed? if so, why have the other manufacturers not built anything like it? Ram TRX is pretty badass but still doesn't compare and it will be EXPENSIVE. How does Tesla get 3500lbs payload and 16" of ground clearance with air suspension that can drop it to the ground? TRX has a measly 1300lbs payload and 8000lbs towing.

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[Ehninger1212]

Are the cybertruck specs really achievable for the price listed? if so, why have the other manufacturers not built anything like it? Ram TRX is pretty badass but still doesn't compare and it will be EXPENSIVE. How does Tesla get 3500lbs payload and 16" of ground clearance with air suspension that can drop it to the ground? TRX has a measly 1300lbs payload and 8000lbs towing.

Because other manufacturers suck.

 

[MUSK007]

Ford doesn’t suck. They make a great truck right now.

 

[Ehninger1212]

*IMO, because other manufacturers suck*

 

[ajdelange]

Are the cybertruck specs really achievable

Little question there but note that there is some specsmanship at play here. The CT will definitely be able to tow 14,000 pounds. It will be able to tow 28,000 pounds too. But what will the energy consumption be. How long would it take to accelerate that load to 40 mph etc. The CT will have an EPA range of 500 miles but there may be some ± on that. Tesla has built hundreds of thousands of BEV over the last 10 years. Their engineering departments' experience gained over this time period has made them pretty good at being able to predict the performance of a vehicle they have on the drawing board.

for the price listed?

Well that is another question. But as with the engineers the procurement people have gotten pretty good at estimating what the feedstock will cost and which way the buy/build decision should go for the component parts. The finance people are also skilled at determining required capex for plant and what it will cost to get that capital and the human resources folks know what kind of labor force will be required. etc, etc.

...why have the other manufacturers not built anything like it?

Tesla has/had several things going for it. They came into the game unfettered by the practices of the large automakers. They are largely vertically integrated. They come with a Silicon Valley perspective which is probably more appropriate than the Detroit perspective. Etc. etc.

 

[MUSK007]

Yea..... ahhh... ok

 

[ajdelange]

Yea..... ahhh... ok

Is that in response to

*IMO, because other manufacturers suck*

or

Little question there ...

?

 

[Tonyk2034]

No real competition until now. That’s why legacy automakers have been around so long. Why thier stocks we’re always doing so poorly and why they have had to be bailed out.

 

[MUSK007]

In the truck world, Tesla is not a competitor. They don’t make a truck yet. When they finally do, then we can begin to see what the effects will be. As awesome as the CT might be, many things need to be decided on, changed and modified before it actually hits the road.

 

[Tonyk2034]

Tesla might not have produced any trucks yet but you can definitely see some differences in what other automakers are producing now and what they will try to produce in the coming years because of the perceived competition.

 

[ajdelange]

In the truck world, Tesla is not a competitor.

In keeping with the theme of No. 5: the bean counters at InBev are confident enough in the engineers and bean counters at Tesla to order some fairly large number of trucks from Tesla. Same is true of the bean counters at Amazon and Republic as regards, respectively, Rivian and Nikola. Those orders are orders that did not go to traditional truck makers. The electric trucks clearly are indeed competitors in this market.

 

[kev12345]

model y dual motor is pretty expensive and it doesn't have air suspension with active damping. i find the cybertruck spec/price combination unbelievable.

 

[Bill906]

I’ve also questioned how the CT can be so much cheaper than other trucks, and even other Teslas. I do not think the answer is Tesla has amazing procurement, finance and human resource departments. I cannot see that being the deciding factor between Tesla and the traditional auto makers and it definitely can’t be the difference between the CT and other Tesla models. I agree that Tesla’s approach of using vertical integration as much as as possible is probably one of the reasons, but I think the biggest cost savings of the CT is the stainless steel exoskeleton. From listening to many experts including Sandy Munroe, painting alone is a huge cost in making a car. That along with using simple bends in the metal sheets (or metal plates) instead of large complex presses seems to be where Tesla is making up the cost.

 

[craz]

I’m of the belief that the stated prices have future tech breakthroughs baked in, and that if Tesla made the CT today they could not meet the price and performance thresholds simultaneously.

Also, wasn’t the demo model CT from the reveal basically a Model 3 on a different chassis? If they can borrow as much existing tech as possible, throw in the improved batteries/suspension, and then manufacture a cheaper body, I can see the net total price not moving up or down from what an LR MY costs.

 

[Ehninger1212]

1. No paint (paint is freaking expensive BTW)
2. minimal interior and exterior styling
3. Less tooling and manufacturing equipment/process

All these things add up to it being cheaper to manufacture thus more affordable.

You can send Tesla a bigger check if you want lol..