Autoline: Has Cybertruck Changed Pickup Design?

[ajdelange]

How can we label something with a singular meaning when , that thing, has multiple meanings and uses.

The English language is very flexible. We can keep refining by the use of, in the language space, modifying words and phrases which in the machine decision space would mean considering more eigenfunctions (guess you'll have to assign more points). Thus rather than just "truck" we can have "short range panel delivery truck" or "fancy truck intended to gratify the puerile desires of wealthy middle aged men with waning testosterone levels".

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[Zhe Wiz]

It's a truck.

 

[Cody the cat]

Yep 50 years ago a truck was indeed a truck by vocation.
As I look back on it and my upbringing in Alabama if you got in a truck you were gonna either work your ass off, or go hunting. Otherwise you got in a car...
Unless you were dirt poor and only had a truck... And then it got me thinking...
When I was a kid being country was not cool. Whether it was being bonafide country, or just living outside the city. Country music was even less cool. But then Country folk were able to become proud of what they were. or at least create a culture, mainly through music where being a redneck meant you were better than anyone else. You worked harder, partied with no regrets, had purtier wimmen, better liquor, and a dogyou loved. People that weren't rednecks started calling themselves redneck. When I was young there was one way to get a redneck to light yer ass up. And that was to call him a redneck. I think country music made being a redneck cool. It took the fire out of the word.
As a sidebar when "the n-word" was becoming common in rap music I felt like it was very cool. I thought the black community was going to accomplish the same thing the rednecks did, and take the sting out of the word. But oh hell no. Just as "the n-word" started becoming ok to say people like Al Sharpton and Oprah stepped in and kept the word "holy." They did a great injustice to the black community. It seems to be a mindset of a sub-culture within African Americans. And it ain't right or intelligent. Those that make sure words of hate have power over them are not mature or self-actualized. In other words, I should avoid them. And I do. There is only one negative racial thought that I have concerning blacks, and it is I am afraid I'll say something that they will latch onto and make it an issue when it isn't.
Now before I go further, and I waited this long to share this... My wife is as black as black can get. Thank god she isn't African American though. She's straight out of Africa. Her name even means "The first born after twins." In her culture twins are able to put all the other family members under their spell except the first child born after them. Her name is Kizza. If she was a male child born right after twins it'd be something different. And now that you have that image starting to form about her consider this. Two years ago she got her Doctorate from Florida Institute of Technology in Stochastics. Yeah. Her job is predicting 6 months in advance the needs of a fortune 500 company. She's a nerd.
But back to the whole truck thing.... So trucks were trucks when they were mainly used as trucks. And then they were adopted by the mainstream, and NOT used as trucks but they looked like trucks so they were still called trucks.
And now we have a vehicle that neither looks or acts or is used as a truck. So it is not a truck except by name.... by that logic my current truck, a 2008 Dodge Ram 5.7 liter hemi is a male sheep or goat... and evidently a studly one as it is the "Big Horn" rendition.

The people at Tesla aren't all mini-elons, some of em are terrible people that think of ways to manipulate the truth to influence buyers. They have polite names like Salesmen, advertising agents, strategists, public relations specialists. The real name for em is "liars". They are deceitful for financial gain. And you can bet your TSLA stock one of them thought up the name "CyberTruck," solely to influence the large percentage of automobile owners who like trucks.
The use of the word "truck" in Cybertruck is so the vehicle will be recognised as a known accepted entity. If they had not officially named it "truck," and by that I mean include the word "TRUCK" in its registered name, then the vehicle would be so far out of what anyone understands a truck to be that it would have been psychologically-dismissed by the public, and become a failure in marketing.

I love it, but as I will continually say, "It ain't a truck." If you believe it is then the sales team was successful.

Luke,
About halfway thru this I was thinking,
“Where is he going with this “.
That was your intent I’m thinking.
But you indeed tied it up into a solid collective point.
Aj has some good points from the opposing view as well.
Im sticking to my view that the CT is very difficult to label. Multiple uses and multiple genres eliminated one definition.
My next ramble is about music.
Being a true child of the 80’s, hard rock, punk rock, good new wave like Joy Division, was my world. Country wasn’t even close to being on my radar. It wasn’t until I matured a bit that I even started to incorporate bluegrass into my eclectic musical taste. You are very aware that bluegrass and country are not the same. Bluegrass is rich and blatant truth. Common mans world.

I still thrash to a little Black Flag,
still air guitar to AC~DC and The Cult,
still Joy Division/ New Order.
Now there is a little Mandolin flavor added to the mix.
Regardless, it all will sound great in the CT.

 

[Cody the cat]

The English language is very flexible. We can keep refining by the use of, in the language space, modifying words and phrases which in the machine decision space would mean considering more eigenfunctions (guess you'll have to assign more points). Thus rather than just "truck" we can have "short range panel delivery truck" or "fancy truck intended to gratify the puerile desires of wealthy middle aged men with waning testosterone levels".

Double bonus points and you sank my battleship. Nice work.

 

[Cody the cat]

What? Why is it not a truck? I'm a truck guy and it can do anything any of my trucks can do a bunch of crap it can't.

CTGuy,
It the “ bunch of other crap “ that’s causing the multiple opinions.

 

[ajdelange]

It the “ bunch of other crap “ that’s causing the multiple opinions.

So what do we call this object?

 

[lukefrisbee]

So what do we call this object?

We are now in Lock step....
From here going forward it shall be called "The Swiss Army Truck".
PERFECT!

 

[lukefrisbee]

We are now in Lock step....
From here going forward it shall be called "The Swiss Army Truck".
PERFECT!

Because just like That ain't a knife, the Cybertruck ain't a truck.

 

[lukefrisbee]

But I'll play my hand... then this is a knife even more so than a Swiss Army Knife...

https://www.maxiaids.com/knork-comb...8Ec9PUehzWM_LBmTw0Z7Nt6cp_-JtVyxoCe_8QAvD_BwE

 

[Cody the cat]

So what do we call this object?

Multi purpose Tool

 

[lukefrisbee]

You see I am ok with some people thinking the cyber has the potential to do a "truck thing." But it ain't a truck. Trucks quit functioning as trucks 40 years ago, but like I said, they still looked like trucks.
The Cyber neither acts, or was designed, or even looks like a truck.

It doesn't even pass the Duck/Truck test:
looks like a duck, swims like a duck, and quacks like a duck, then it probably is a duck.

 

[John K]

The great divide has nothing to do with our opinion on the vehicles’s use. The polarizing agreement deal breaker is the name?

It is a Transportation Reservoir Under Consent of the King

 

[ajdelange]

Multi purpose Tool

I know what you call it as well as you do so I assume that comment is to stimulate further discussion. But this is too foolish to warrant further discussion. Every one here calls it a Swiss Army Knife just as everyone calls the Cybertruck the Cybertruck. But anyone is free to call it whatever he wants to. He risks being misunderstood and/or though a fool by so doing but it's his choice.

 

[lukefrisbee]

You see I am ok with some people thinking the cyber has the potential to do a "truck thing." But it ain't a truck. Trucks quit functioning as trucks 40 years ago, but like I said, they still looked like trucks.
The Cyber neither acts, or was designed, or even looks like a truck.

It doesn't even pass the Duck/Truck test:
looks like a duck, swims like a duck, and quacks like a duck, then it probably is a duck.

Looks like a duck? No
Swims like a duck? No
and quacks like a duck? NO
It looks like tank, it moves like some robot machine, 3 motors and air suspension, with a computer screen?
and it makes no noise at all...very unlike a truck.

 

[John K]

CyberDuck, case closed.