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Viable from a functionality perspective? I can see that in the next 5 years. Whether FSD will be generally road legal in that timeframe is another story, and I'd bet that it wouldn't be. This is a big reason why I will almost certainly be canceling my FSD option. I can't justify paying $7,000...

Ok. It is clear we aren't seeing eye to eye on things here, and that's fine. No need to keep beating a dead horse on an issue that has nothing to do with the thread.

Look, what you're saying makes sense conceptually. I've just called for something other than an explanation of how manufacturers have worked the process for EV models on the market today. And, rather, something that shows that this is actually necessary based on the fundamentals of EV...

Thanks for that. My question remains whether it is possible to just plug in and turn on (i.e. whether software is required as a matter of course for EV charging) or whether these protocols/standards are set up in a way to require software. I fully understand why manufacturers, etc. require the...

Thanks, Crissa. This isn't slip and fall law . And that's now how general civil liability works and is not how products liability law works specifically; I already discussed the standards in previous posts. Tesla can deal with any potential issue by an aggressive waiver policy. It would only...

You're changing the goal post now. You stated earlier that the allowing for such charging for salvage title vehicles would lead to more costly litigation. That is not the case. Tesla doesn't need to hire any more people/pay anything it isn't paying (you're overstating the amount of legal work...

Nobody is having nightmares about anything, but thanks. Also, citations would be greatly appreciated in order to look into the status of a particular case. Frivolous lawsuits are filed all of the time and are dismissed on summary judgment motions all of the time (meaning that they don't even go...

Thanks, Crissa! Are you referring to case law specific to California? If so, do you have any examples to provide? Based on my knowledge of products liability law today (and I note that legislation/constitutional amendments supersedes case law all of the time, so you'd have to check to see...

It doesn't really help me, no. It explains better how EV charging works and how Tesla and other companies use software as part of the charging process. It does not explain to me whether this software is necessary as a matter of course with EV charging. In short, I get how EV manufacturers have...

You haven't made it clear, no. You've explained how Tesla uses its software for the charging process. You have not proven that the software is necessary for a Tesla vehicle to charge as a matter of course. But I'm open to being convinced. But, note, even if this was the case, this wouldn't take...

Except that's not how all cars get a salvage title from what I'm reading. If it was, I'd have zero concern. The process for getting a salvage title differs by state. And, in some instances, the damage can be cosmetic, with no damage to the battery pack (in the case of an EV). Simply put...

Thanks! Those really aren't analogous to the situation here, though, and Tesla does and could draft much stronger language to shield itself from liability. I also note that the state of the law/legislation has changed over the past several decades making such suits less likely. For instance, not...

If I own a Tesla and get into an accident and my car is now has a salvage title after getting repaired, I am limited in where I can reasonably travel without access to fast chargers. So it is a potential impact to me as an owner (or future owner). But it's this uncertainty and potential that...

I have a reservation for a cybertruck dual motor. But if the current policy on salvage title vehicles and fast chargers doesn't change, I will not be going through with the reservation due to potential limitations.

This seems to be a matter of product liability law, which is implicated generally when there is a failure to warn for a known defect or if there is some kind of defective design. There are other nuances to product liability law, but that's the basic gist of it. In this case, there wouldn't be an...

I'm still keeping my reservation for the time being. If Tesla changes this policy by the time that it is time to move further with my order, then I'm go through with the the purchase. Otherwise, I won't, which pains me to write, as the value of my Tesla (which is increased significantly by...

I'm not sure if I agree with this. I'm pretty sure that Tesla could completely shield itself from liability via third party chargers if it wanted to; doesn't seem that difficult to do. Indeed, based on the Tesla logic, there is a higher risk of a salvage title vehicle catching fire at any...

Thanks. My concern is over the different standards that exist by state for issuing a salvage title to a vehicle and the uncertainty that brings for those who may be involved in a seemingly minor accident. I'm hoping that Tesla creates a certification process for salvage title vehicles so that...

I just read an article about Tesla disabling salvage title vehicles from accessing the supercharging network (and other third party fast chargers); the policy has been in place for months, but I am just finding about it now. Apparently, it is due to safety issues. If the battery has been...

If the 2021 Bronco was an EV and priced similar to the cybertruck, I'd consider it over the cybertruck if I could get it much earlier than the cybertruck. But, it's not, so I wont.