NO SIDE MIRRORS (Side View Cameras Instead)

[TyPope]

Why not just put additional camera on side of trailor ?

That would work. I was thinking of solutions that would always work. I can't add cameras to every trailer I pull. Some of those aren't mine.

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[Dids]

That would work. I was thinking of solutions that would always work. I can't add cameras to every trailer I pull. Some of those aren't mine.

You must tell the holy father on twitter that you need wireless cameras that you can ?magnetically? attach to trailors.... although some of them might be aluminum...

 

[cybrtrk_maybe]

What about wireless cameras on suction cups?

 

[hridge2020]

What about wireless cameras on suction cups?

Probably won't be there when you leave your vehicle parked somewhere and get back. lol

 

[Dids]

Probably won't be there when you leave your vehicle parked somewhere and get back. lol

Sentry mode would let you see who took it.

 

[dempster]

Just put an air knife in, the truck already has a compressor built in.

I was also thinking this. Seems like an easy solution

 

[Owner13669]

While I do wonder about this, do rearview mirrors stay clean in the same circumstances?

I expect cameras should work about the same as mirrors in adverse conditions, so it is a wash.

With the chevy bolt, when you use the window washer for the rear window, it also washes the rear camera.

 

[craz]

Love the mirrorless looks, but this comes entirely down to execution.

Mirrors are something you need at a moment's notice, without any extra effort required. I should be able to check my mirror in a split second, which means that there must be a continuous video feed somewhere in the vehicle.

Are you going to take up center console real estate? Perhaps, but it seems awfully unnatural and inefficient to look down and towards the middle of the car before checking over your shoulder. Anything that brings your eyes away from the road is potentially dangerous.

I'm optimistic Tesla will make it work, it's the legacy automakers that scare me. Who wants to navigate a laggy Ford entertainment system every time they need to change lanes?

If it can't be done seamlessly I don't think it should be done at all.

EDIT: Side mirror video footage projected on a windshield HUD would be SICK

 

[Dids]

Love the mirrorless looks, but this comes entirely down to execution.

Mirrors are something you need at a moment's notice, without any extra effort required. I should be able to check my mirror in a split second, which means that there must be a continuous video feed somewhere in the vehicle.

Are you going to take up center console real estate? Perhaps, but it seems awfully unnatural and inefficient to look down and towards the middle of the car before checking over your shoulder. Anything that brings your eyes away from the road is potentially dangerous.

I'm optimistic Tesla will make it work, it's the legacy automakers that scare me. Who wants to navigate a laggy Ford entertainment system every time they need to change lanes?

If it can't be done seamlessly I don't think it should be done at all.

EDIT: Side mirror video footage projected on a windshield HUD would be SICK

Properly adjusted/ properly displayed side view means you shouldn't have to look over your shoulder. But I agree with you I don't want side view displays at center of vehicle until tesla does it and I use it and discover it makes it so much better....

 

[TyPope]

You must tell the holy father on twitter that you need wireless cameras that you can ?magnetically? attach to trailors.... although some of them might be aluminum...

Well, I AM the Pope. So, there's that.

 

[Matt Hanrath]

In winter conditions with all the slush, I wonder CT will keep the camera clean?

I think off road testing for mud/stone/ice spray from tires on all camera's and sensors could spell out the need some kind of protection cover &/or wipe/washing. Maybe blinking like an eye for protection and cleaning

 

[Aces-Truck]

What may be lost in this discussion, is what is the objective of the side mirrors (or mirror camera systems). As I read it, it is to see parallel to the side tangent of the car/truck. It does not care about the blind triangle created by the vehicle. Here is a good quote from the regulation:

"Outside mirrors of unit magnification, each with not less than 126 cm 2 of reflective surface, installed with stable supports on both sides of the vehicle, located so as to provide the driver a view to the rear along both sides of the vehicle, and adjustable in both the horizontal and vertical directions to view the rearward scene. "

Here is a link to the regulation itself: "https://www.law.cornell.edu/cfr/text/49/571.111". So as I read it, the goal of the side mirrors, from a safety requirement is only concerned with things like changing lanes on a freeway and being able to see far enough behind you to be able to pull out from a shoulder onto a road. Backing up is not addressed. Am I missing something here?

 

[Jhodgesatmb]

No you aren't missing anything, that is what side mirrors are for, regardless of what you are towing. I am guessing that some of the people on the thread are concerned about seeing as much of the side view as possible when they are towing a wide vehicle such as a trailer, but there is no side view mirror in the world that can see around corners nor would anyone expect them to.

 

[TyPope]

No you aren't missing anything, that is what side mirrors are for, regardless of what you are towing. I am guessing that some of the people on the thread are concerned about seeing as much of the side view as possible when they are towing a wide vehicle such as a trailer, but there is no side view mirror in the world that can see around corners nor would anyone expect them to.

If you tow a big trailer, it is hard to see around it to see traffic in the next lane. Even with my F-350's huge mirrors, it helps to electrically extend them out an additional 3 or so inches just to see past the trailer. The trailer is NOT wider than the truck though you'd certainly think so in the mirrors!

 

[CyberCop]

In winter conditions with all the slush, I wonder CT will keep the camera clean?

With lasers...?