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Is a jack needed if vehicle has adjustable height? Raise truck, add block, lower truck.
You still have to overcome the weight of the tire and suspension. The reason the air bags deflate and lower is the weight that is on top of them. They do not deflate and pull the tire to the truck.





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So for offroading yes you just said a spar or to do you really expect tesla to supply 2 full size spares?. get a grip.

And city slicker my ass. worked the oil patch 6 years in northeren canada. put more offroad miles on my truck then you ever will.
I am sure they have these things we call "tire stores" up yonder in the great white north don't they, so buy a spare and be prepared. Like I say "Semper Paratus".
 
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So for offroading yes you just said a spar or to do you really expect tesla to supply 2 full-size spares?. get a grip.

And city slicker my ass. worked the oil patch 6 years in northern Canada. put more offroad miles on my truck then you ever will.
I hear you folks grow and export snow up there. By the way I also lived in Kodiak, AK for several years courtesy of the military, learned a few things about making popsicles and how not to become one. Gravel roads were extremely popular with the road designers since they were very fashionable with the "Green Crowd" and totally recyclable. Before the military, years ago when I was young and wild I also worked in the offshore oil patch. Saw a few bumper stickers on a few trucks in Morgan City, La that said "Please Don't Tell My Folks I Work In The Oilpatch, They Think I Play A Piano In A Whore House"
Were they popular in Canada?
 
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Ok, we're gonna need verification of how many off-road miles each of you guys have driven in a truck............or should I say each of you city slickers? This is confusing. Can you be an off-road city slicker? Asking for a friend...........
Are you referring to people that actually wash their trucks type of "off-roaders"? Give you a hint, check the wheel wells for mud, I hear't some folks will toss a bucket o'mud on the fenders to impress their neighbors watching from their driveway 3 houses down but they always forgets to splash some on the undersides. Question, in Young, AZ we only had about 8 miles of asphalt from the north end to the south end of town, does that count partially? After driving all day in the pines on what used to be fire lane cuts from 20 years ago the dirt roads felt like interstate.
 
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Is a jack needed if vehicle has adjustable height? Raise truck, add block, lower truck.
It all depends if you want to change the tire? Or you can round up a few strong friends and have them hold it fer ya. Not the same ones that hold the beer though.
 

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You still have to overcome the weight of the tire and suspension. The reason the air bags deflate and lower is the weight that is on top of them. They do not deflate and pull the tire to the truck.
I guess I just assumed they were gonna use the air suspension cylinders similar to model X and not an airbag but maybe you are right they have to use airbag for heavier load carry.
 

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Are you referring to people that actually wash their trucks type of "off-roaders"? Give you a hint, check the wheel wells for mud, I hear't some folks will toss a bucket o'mud on the fenders to impress their neighbors watching from their driveway 3 houses down but they always forgets to splash some on the undersides. Question, in Young, AZ we only had about 8 miles of asphalt from the north end to the south end of town, does that count partially? After driving all day in the pines on what used to be fire lane cuts from 20 years ago the dirt roads felt like interstate.
Wash the truck? What in the ham sandwich is that all about? No, seriously, some years ago you could buy spray-on mud, popular in Europe, as you suggested to impress your neighbors you are the rugged off-road type. I still have a few cans lying around if you want to borrow some........
 

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Wash the truck? What in the ham sandwich is that all about? No, seriously, some years ago you could buy spray-on mud, popular in Europe, as you suggested to impress your neighbors you are the rugged off-road type. I still have a few cans lying around if you want to borrow some........
Kind of along these lines for a joke.

 

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Now you're talkin' off-road.........
 

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I see little value in a spare since tires are so good nowadays. I drive a lot .. 2X the national average ... and I’ve had just 2 tire issues in the past 30 years. I’m fine without.
For the average user, I would be inclined to agree with you.

For those of us who are off-road enthusiasts, however, spare tire(s) are essential.

When you are negotiating the Imogene Pass at 13,400 feet in southwestern Colorado, and you blow a sidewall out on a sharp piece of granite, it’s impractical to call AAA.

The tires that are on the cybertruck prototype would be challenging to stow; they are 35 inches tall and 12 1/2 inches wide.

The only practical way to carry a spare that I see is to bolt one down to the floor of the bed. Or, like me, be cheap, and ratchet strap the damn thing down.

Unfortunately, the tire looks too tall to bolt upright against the forward wall or side walls of the vault (if you want the vault cover closed).
 

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For the average user, I would be inclined to agree with you.

For those of us who are off-road enthusiasts, however, spare tire(s) are essential.

When you are negotiating the Imogene Pass at 13,400 feet in southwestern Colorado, and you blow a sidewall out on a sharp piece of granite, it’s impractical to call AAA.

The tires that are on the cybertruck prototype would be challenging to stow; they are 35 inches tall and 12 1/2 inches wide.

The only practical way to carry a spare that I see is to bolt one down to the floor of the bed. Or, like me, be cheap, and ratchet strap the damn thing down.

Unfortunately, the tire looks too tall to bolt upright against the forward wall or side walls of the vault (if you want the vault cover closed).
For off-roading, if you need the cargo space in the bed, put the spare on top in a roof cargo rack. The rack could even be back a bit and span across part of the bed over the forward portion of the roll top so its tucked a bit more behind the leading edge of the top of the pyramid shape.

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Any idea if the Frunk might be big enough for a spare? The best pic I could find that shows the size of the frunk is this side view of the bare main skeleton of the truck. It looks like the pan that I would think forms the bottom of the frunk would not be very deep.

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Used to live in Young, AZ and living far off the beaten path teaches you a few things and how to be self-sufficient and not rely on no one else to get yourself out of a bind
In the summer I take my GSP to Woods Canyon Lake by the turnoff to go to Young
 

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For off-roading, if you need the cargo space in the bed, put the spare on top in a roof cargo rack. The rack could even be back a bit and span across part of the bed over the forward portion of the roll top so its tucked a bit more behind the leading edge of the top of the pyramid shape.

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Any idea if the Frunk might be big enough for a spare? The best pic I could find that shows the size of the frunk is this side view of the bare main skeleton of the truck. It looks like the pan that I would think forms the bottom of the frunk would not be very deep.
While possible, going roof rack would royally destroy the aerodynamics, as well as block view. Not to mention trying to lug a 70 pound tire up onto the roof.

The frunk is going to be waaaaaaaay too small to fit a tire.

Mounting it over the vault cover would work, but, if you have the solar option, you’re going to be blocking your panel. And there’s still the messing up of the aerodynamics.

Enlarging the storage area under the vault will, in all probability, be impossible, as the motor (or motors) will be in that area.

A rear bumper-mounted swing-out rack might be a compromise.
 

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While possible, going roof rack would royally destroy the aerodynamics, as well as block view. Not to mention trying to lug a 70 pound tire up onto the roof.

A rear bumper-mounted swing-out rack might be a compromise.
Anywhere on the exterior is going to mess with the aerodynamics to some degree. Hanging on the back, maybe less so, but still will add drag. A 35" tire may be higher than the height of the tailgate.

The idea of putting it on top and not hanging on the tailgate was because people were saying they wanted to use the cargo bed to haul stuff, so trying to find a place that isn't in the way of cargo access.

If you want to preserve range, your options are in the vault, or in the back seat.

(As a side question, how fast are you going off road that you worry about aerodynamics?)
 
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Something like this could stow it in the cargo bed and still give some room underneath:
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Here is one that hooks into the side cargo rails like CT has (width will need to be tweaked):
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