Updated CyberTruck to be shown in a month or so says Musk!

[DanD]

Elon said on November 3 we would get to see an updated design "in a month or so." Anyone else getting antsy wanting to see an updated cybertruck??? I feel like I check twitter and youtube every day!!

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[Sirfun]

Elon said on November 3 we would get to see an updated design "in a month or so." Anyone else getting antsy wanting to see an updated cybertruck??? I feel like I check twitter and youtube every day!!

In the meantime, the one year anniversary of the reveal on Nov. 21 passed with nothing to show. I just wonder why Tesla has been so mum for so DAMN long. No teaser sightings, nothing since battery day in September. Remember there was supposed to be an across America tour of the Cybertruck? CRICKETS!!!!

 

[VolklKatana]

So one consideration people aren't thinking about is that many of the important pieces of the CYBERTRUCK, excluding the body itself, are all being tested as separate pieces in other vehicles. Octovalve, already in new Tesla vehicles. Plaid powertrain, already being tested in Model S. New battery tech, likely being tested in other vehicles and possibly semi. Central screen, used in all Tesla's already. Glass and stainless can be tested outside of vehicle form. There are no body panel fitments to test. There are no castings that need to to be mated to other vehicle parts. Tesla's ability to share these items across vehicles are part of what is making them so efficient and profitable.

 

[FutureBoy]

In the meantime, the one year anniversary of the reveal on Nov. 21 passed with nothing to show. I just wonder why Tesla has been so mum for so DAMN long. No teaser sightings, nothing since battery day in September. Remember there was supposed to be an across America tour of the Cybertruck? CRICKETS!!!!

Well, he seems to be somewhat busy with rocket launches lately. But still, the crickets are getting annoying.

 

[Dids]

So one consideration people aren't thinking about is that many of the important pieces of the CYBERTRUCK, excluding the body itself, are all being tested as separate pieces in other vehicles. Octovalve, already in new Tesla vehicles. Plaid powertrain, already being tested in Model S. New battery tech, likely being tested in other vehicles and possibly semi. Central screen, used in all Tesla's already. Glass and stainless can be tested outside of vehicle form. There are no body panel fitments to test. There are no castings that need to to be mated to other vehicle parts. Tesla's ability to share these items across vehicles are part of what is making them so efficient and profitable.

They might actually be testing Cybertruck for all we know. There is no reason that they have to build a factory before they do testing. I think its fair to assume that the production prototypes exist since its been more than a month or so. Of course they would have completed all the tests before unveiling the production prototype.

 

[Diehard]

So one consideration people aren't thinking about is that many of the important pieces of the CYBERTRUCK, excluding the body itself, are all being tested as separate pieces in other vehicles. Octovalve, already in new Tesla vehicles. Plaid powertrain, already being tested in Model S. New battery tech, likely being tested in other vehicles and possibly semi. Central screen, used in all Tesla's already. Glass and stainless can be tested outside of vehicle form. There are no body panel fitments to test. There are no castings that need to to be mated to other vehicle parts. Tesla's ability to share these items across vehicles are part of what is making them so efficient and profitable.

If this is true, I can guess what Elon’s update to CT looks like:

 

[Diehard]

In the meantime, the one year anniversary of the reveal on Nov. 21 passed with nothing to show. I just wonder why Tesla has been so mum for so DAMN long. No teaser sightings, nothing since battery day in September. Remember there was supposed to be an across America tour of the Cybertruck? CRICKETS!!!!

‘Elan is trying to get you emotionally ready for the delay next December.

In the meantime watch this and try to imagine it is CT:

 

[Jhodgesatmb]

They might actually be testing Cybertruck for all we know. There is no reason that they have to build a factory before they do testing. I think its fair to assume that the production prototypes exist since its been more than a month or so. Of course they would have completed all the tests before unveiling the production prototype.

I think/hope that anyone that saw a CT on the road would make a lot of noise.

 

[Diehard]

They might actually be testing Cybertruck for all we know. There is no reason that they have to build a factory before they do testing. I think its fair to assume that the production prototypes exist since its been more than a month or so. Of course they would have completed all the tests before unveiling the production prototype.

I hope you are correct. The design is so radically new that my fear is they have found something serious wrong that requires a fundamental design change.

 

[Luke42]

So one consideration people aren't thinking about is that many of the important pieces of the CYBERTRUCK, excluding the body itself, are all being tested as separate pieces in other vehicles.

Test mules are standard practice in the auto industry.

While you may be right that full integration testing may be easier for the Cybertruck than it is for other vehicles, it still has to happen.

Most vehicles are developed on a 5-year design cycle, followed by 5 years of sales. Mules are usually kinda in the middle of the 5-year cycle. Tesla is more agile than this, but all of the same things still need to happen.

So, if they're still testing things on mules, they're still in the middle of the Cybertruck design process.

// Source: I make my living in product development, but not in automotive. Our products are less complex and our design cycle is simpler and shorter. But we still have to do a lot of the same things that the big kids do.

 

[Luke42]

They might actually be testing Cybertruck for all we know. There is no reason that they have to build a factory before they do testing.

That depends entirely on what you're testing.

Remember that the process to manufacture a widget is an engineering effort that is often much more complex than the widget itself.

1. You can build a prototype to test the widget design.
2. Then you have to build & test the factory, which can involve prototype factories ("pilot plants").
3. Then you make changes to both the factory and the widget until they work together seamlessly, AND you make the customer happy.
4. Repeat 1-3 until you have a successful product. Remember that this often spans multiple organizations, languages, products, and timezones -- and all of this has to work in concert by the time the product goes on sale.

You can definitely learn a lot by hand-building 1-off prototypes on the workbench, and that's an essential part of product development. But that only gets you halfway there, at best.

 

[Jhodgesatmb]

So one consideration people aren't thinking about is that many of the important pieces of the CYBERTRUCK, excluding the body itself, are all being tested as separate pieces in other vehicles. Octovalve, already in new Tesla vehicles. Plaid powertrain, already being tested in Model S. New battery tech, likely being tested in other vehicles and possibly semi. Central screen, used in all Tesla's already. Glass and stainless can be tested outside of vehicle form. There are no body panel fitments to test. There are no castings that need to to be mated to other vehicle parts. Tesla's ability to share these items across vehicles are part of what is making them so efficient and profitable.

Yes, but it still isn’t ‘that’ easy. No one has ever made a 3mm stainless exoskeleton before. They have to figure out how to cut, fold, and weld the frame quickly. They probably need a new suspension that can handle the cargo and towing requirements but also handle extreme off roading. That’s gotta be a problem. Their new casting machines have never been tested on something as big as the CT. There are still issues with the lights, and regulatory issues with wipers and side mirrors. And these are only the most obvious things. Most of the comments on this forum are about things never before mentioned by Tesla; things they could do to make the truck spectacular. So yes, there is hope, but there is a lot of work to do that hasn’t been shared (understandable) so a design update would be really, really, really appreciated.

 

[Crissa]

Well, they made the one they demo'd, but they made it with people operating machines rather than automated folding.

They might be making lots of paper trucks ala folding at home.

-Crissa

 

[TheLastStarfighter]

When Tesla was launching the Model S, their quality guy - from Mercedes - told Elon they need to test it for two years before selling. Elon said he gets 6 months. If they're going to make their end of year sales start goal, we should see something very soon, either officially or in spy photos. They'll need to crash test the car too, etc, before selling so more info is coming one way or another. Or it will be delayed, but I really think they don't want that.

 

[OneLapper]

There are no body panel fitments to test.

Um, yeah. 5 panels need to be aligned. Hood and four doors.

Here's the issue. Typically the fender is adjusted to the door gap (after the door is properly set). In a normal car there's lots of movement in the front fenders, nose, hood, etc. Most cant see 1mm of panel adjustment. Not going to be the case with the CT. Fenders don't move.

Proper hood and door alignment will rely on the hood and doors being dimensionally correct.

Getting the proper production tolerances is going to be a bitch. Something that Tesla has admittedly struggled with.