Exoskeleton vs crumple zones

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A huge change in the CT is this exoskeleton construction. My question is how does this exoskeleton function in a wreck... vs another vehicle, vs a person, vs a tree, or whatever? I'm very concerned when I think about the CT vs a person; but, I'm also wondering about our own safety with no real crumple zones. I have to think that Elon has thought of this, and possibly has unseen joints (on the backside) that will fail at a point, and provide crash mitigation.

Certainly, all of our hopes are not pinned on crash avoidance by the computer system. At some point, there will be an impact that is not caught by the cameras/computer/etc.; and I hope it's not a tragic result. peace





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It has crumple zones. It has to have them for US sales. There's no reason the exoskeleton can't have them: They're just strategic failure points, much like the scoring and folding they say they're doing to make the truck.

Crumple zones don't activate vs a person, anyhow. ...unless they're very soft, like air bags.

It's otherwise like a unibody car, just with a harder outer shell. We'll get to see how it performs in crash tests eventually.

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The energy involved in a collision with a tree or another vehicle is many orders of magnitude greater than that from a sledge hammer. So it can be strong enough to withstand incidental damage, and still crumple like an aluminum can when necessary! Also, I don’t think the CT is anything new when it comes to endangering pedestrians, the large flat grills of most trucks these days means pedestrians are an afterthought. Correct me if I’m wrong, but I believe that pedestrian safety regulations may be almost nonexistent for trucks.
 

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The energy involved in a collision with a tree or another vehicle is many orders of magnitude greater than that from a sledge hammer. So it can be strong enough to withstand incidental damage, and still crumple like an aluminum can when necessary! Also, I don’t think the CT is anything new when it comes to endangering pedestrians, the large flat grills of most trucks these days means pedestrians are an afterthought. Correct me if I’m wrong, but I believe that pedestrian safety regulations may be almost nonexistent for trucks.
Look at police and emergency vehicles. Best pedestrian and biker killing machines available outside of the military :) Any argument that can be made by the NHTSA for passenger cars and trucks would have to be, IMO, applicable to those vehicles as well.
 

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My GMC Sierra is pretty far from being pedestrian-friendly, both in terms of blind spots and in terms of impact mitigation.

I think about this every time I drive it in a parking lot.

The CT's van-like sloped hood is likely to be a lot better in terms of making it harder for pedestrians to hide near the headlights.

We here in 'murica are pretty far behind the Europeans in this respect.
 
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My GMC Sierra is pretty far from being pedestrian-friendly, both in terms of blind spots and in terms of impact mitigation.

I think about this every time I drive it in a parking lot.

The CT's van-like sloped hood is likely to be a lot better in terms of making it harder for pedestrians to hide near the headlights.

We here in 'murica are pretty far behind the Europeans in this respect.
Hey Luke, In the pre-"lectric world, I had a hard time driving anything truck-wise other than GM. I had tried to look at other builds, but my brain simply wouldn't let me do anything else. Now, with Elon and the new CyberTruck, I'm actually excited to try something so new and feature-filled. I can't wait. peace
 

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Hey Luke, In the pre-"lectric world, I had a hard time driving anything truck-wise other than GM. I had tried to look at other builds, but my brain simply wouldn't let me do anything else. Now, with Elon and the new CyberTruck, I'm actually excited to try something so new and feature-filled. I can't wait. peace
I switched from Ford to GM this time, for the hybrid system and for the slip-and-grip-capable 4WD system.

My visibility problem with my Sierra is that the massive square hood blocks the view of the front left and right corners of the vehicle.

I drove a minivan prior to getting my Sierra, and I really miss the close-range forward visibility the van had.

I'm getting used to the blind spots on the Sierra, but that's not a good thing, because I can't see through steel any better than I could when I first bought the Sierra.

I'm really interested to see the view from the driver's seat of the CT, though. This is one of the things I'll be looking for during my test-drive.
 
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The other vehicle is your crumple zone
haha... I hope not. That could be a motorcycle... and the crumple zone of that might be the rider, sad to say. I can't wait to see the final pictures, specifications and maybe get a deep look either online (Tesla.com) or in a brochure. peace
 

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